Was Jesus White? w/ Dante Fortson – Talkin’ Doctrine – Ep.145

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Check out this interview with I did last night with brother Mathias. But before you listen, I do want to give you a little background on how this interview came about. I was a previous guest on the show in a tag team debate. Myself and Mathias debated two other people on the topic of Nephilim and fallen angels in Genesis 6. It was months after that debate that Mathias revealed to me that he believes Christ is black and so are the Israelites. He asked me a couple of weeks ago to come on his show to discuss the topic.

  • He has not studied the subject and wanted to have the conversation on his show.
  • The show gets off track at points, but we come back to some heavy issues such as the disconnect between black and European ways of seeing the world.
  • At times he seems standoffish, but we all were at one point and it’s hard breaking through the veil into deeper truth. We all fight to hold onto what we’re familiar with, and he got hit with a lot of new truth last night, so I don’t have any hard feelings about it.
  • We talked for about 30 minutes prior to the show and for 10 minutes after it cut off suddenly. He told me that he accidentally hit the hang up button instead of the mute button, which I believe because I almost did the same thing a few times during the show, and barely caught myself.
  • The reason I believe the above to be true is because Mathias has a show with mostly white listeners, he’s been on my Facebook for YEARS, so he sees the kind of stuff I post, he still invited me on, and after the show ended he invited me back on to talk for a couple more hours as soon as I give him a date and time.

I’m sure that the next show will go a lot smoother and not get off track so much because he’ll have a ton of questions from the articles I sent him to read. Hi s listeners will most definitely have questions as the week progresses. Hit up the comments section and show some support. Thanks in advance to everyone that listens… and a super big thank you to brother Mathias for offering his platform for this discussion at the risk of offending his core group of listeners.

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By Black History In The Bible

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God." - John 8:45-47


  • Hello Minister Fortson, hope all is well. I just finished listening to the ‘Was Jesus White’ interview and here’s my take. After you spoke on the original maps, he deceptively said the maps were changed. Next, when you two discussed the judgements, he craftily evaded answering several questions you asked him, but when you both went into the discourse about the anti-christ, you answered those questions, that’s when the true spirit that controls him angrily rose up and used him to through a dog whistle, call you the anti-christ by saying he believed the anti-christ will be a black man who comes bringing the truth, like you do. The reason I say his spirit is evil is because I don’t remember the Bible saying anything about the anti-christ ever speaking truth. He refused to acknowledge that Israel (After being proven by you to be negro (black) will rule over whites. He was pretty much saying that he doesn’t accept the truth if it comes from a black man exposing him. A true racist. The way he exposed himself was by saying it’s okay to excercise paganism because he’s saved. “Will ye steal, murder,and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and sa, We are delivered to do all these abominations? Is this house which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord”. Jeremiah 7:9-11. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Romans 6:1-2. He even said easter represents the birth of Christ. He also lied when he said he wasn’t aware of the abuse of police. If he knew about the negro project and eugenics, he knows what his people do as cops. Finally, you did well, very well. To God be the glory. However, because you brought up the BHI camps, he manipulated you into really coming down on the brotha’s to take the focus off of your educating him about fake jewish people. I use the word manipulate because the two of you downed them for their funky doctrine, but you never mentioned the corrupt doctrine of british israelism, that national camp you speak of in your latest book, and you said very little about the corrupt doctrine of euro-centric and conservative christianity. I commend you for debunking damning doctrine, but treat black and whites the same. You seem to be more accepting of the corrupt doctrine of white folk than black folk. Corrupt doctrine is corrupt doctrine. I don’t know, maybe you have a personal problem with BHI camps. All in all, you did well, and to me, THE MOST HIGH exposed him. He’s not someone who I’d let minister to me.

    • Thanks for the response. I often denounce and separate myself from the camps because way too many people including our own think that everyone in this field is associated with BHI. He didn’t manipulate me at all. It was very intentional. Most white people aren’t actually aware of British-Israelism and are more aware of BHI.

      We actually did a follow up that I have not posted yet, but will this week. In part 2, I go in on British-Israelism and Eurocentric doctrine being created to keep white people comfortable. We already had part 2 planned, so everything was strategic. First I separated myself from the camps so that people would be more ready to receive the message, and then I addressed the problems with Eurocentric Christianity.

      Make no mistake, I’m not accepting of their doctrine, I just know when to address what in interview type situations.

      • Hello Minister Fortson. Thank you for your response. Now it all makes sense. I look forward to part 2. I didn’t think, and I hoped you wouldn’t be someone who feared white folk. I’m still hoping to hear something else from you about Israel being the inheritance of THE MOST HIGH, and the gentiles being the inheritance of Christ.

  • I’ve been a subscriber for a while, have tried several times, but never got my copy of Pre-Slavery Christianity. I’m needing it, bro! I know the basics but no one collates the passages and background material like you. Keep it up! Peace.

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